Feb 25 2008
True Church Conference
I just returned home from the True Church Conference that was held by the First Baptist Church of Muscle Shoals. I can say that I have been exhorted by some of the greatest of God’s servants in the United States. The times of worship were just as wonderfully anointed and were terrifyingly heavenous.
The theme of the conference this year was Church Discipline. Focused on both the theology and methodology of Church Discipline, the preachers exhorted us to consider that we will never have true churches until we practice the scriptures in their entirety and this includes discipline. They also challenged us to simply be humble men of God who base their life and ministry on the scriptures alone.
Tom Clay did an amazing job leading worship. I once heard a preacher say, “you don’t sing because you can sing, you sing because you’ve got a song.” I felt that the entire church had a song, the song of the redeemed. What a blessing to be around people who sing over redemption of the soul.
It was truly a wonderful weekend. Timmy Brister, live blogged the entire conference and has most of the sermon outlines on his website if you are interested in what went on.
5 responses so far
Let’s get real. Heavenous??? You say that you were exhorted to practice the scriptures in their entirety?? How about the scripture that teaches that we have to deny ourselves? Does having three vehicles and a motorcycle indicate that you are living a life of self-denial? Please don’t preach to me until you are living a life like Jesus or the apostles. Getting paid to preach…hmm
did Jesus do that?
25 indictments against Paul Washer:
connection in the Netherlands to all false christianity has to offer, even with those
1) willfully limiting the subjectmatter of Scripture
2) willfully presenting his own fabricated version of true christianity
3) willfully bringing himself under a cloak of godliness
4) willfully closing the book of Revelation and the Prophets
5) willfully painting the graves of the prophets for his own selfish ends
6) willfully presenting himself since 2002 with remarks that show Billy Graham
to be his brother, although Graham is high in the world and an archdeceiver
7) comparison with the whole of Scripture and the true old paths of the Reformation
show him to be a cloud without water
who publicly say calvinism is a complete error
9) presenting himself in 80.000 newspapers in the Netherlands smiling as though
the sins of the churches and the land are no problem to him
10) proclaiming a message of revival that has never come, thereby telling lies in Gods Name.
11) accepting in the core of his message two contradicting systems of doctrine
12) denying the witness of the Holy Spirit in the Reformation against THE antichrist in Rome
13) denying the blood of hunderthousands christian brothers and sisters against THE antichrist in Rome
14) going around the USA and the world to gain one proselyte that he makes a clone of himself
15) being silent about the developements in the outside world, only preaching for his own parish
16) laying burdens on small people, while leaving big names in bibleschools, synods, and gospelmusic
untouched and unmentioned
17) connecting himself to Kirk Cameron, known throughout the world for the message of a future antichrist
with Left Behind
18) himself not being able to go to Wallmart for fear of sinning, yet laying on big burdens on everyone else
19) printing his own material as though it is manna from heaven, yet is only copying a little text everyone
knows with some questions
20) saying he serves the God of heaven, yet he himself is an idolater of the ring on his own finger
21) his minister is Jeff Nobblit who teaches a future antichrist, that gain is godliness, and remains in the
SBC although a complete apostate body with a statue for Billy Graham
22) closing the Kingdom of God for the people by keeping silent about the true contents of the witness of the old paths
23) denying the true witness of the Waldenses, the reformers, the english puritans, the scottish covenanters
24) denying the true witness of Augustine against Pelagius, Luther against Rome, the Westminster and Dordt Synods
25) being a facilitator and manipulator replacing the true religion of the King Jesus Christ with a false one of the new world order
If an American pretends in the USA to love the Gospel and love Christ, yet in the Netherlands joins those who are the enemies of Christ and shows PUBLICLY that he is ONE with them, what would you do when asked what to do and say ? What would you say if someone publicly in his 10 indictment message closes the book of Revelation (KJV Rev 1v3), says that the discussion arminianism calvinism is NOT important, and calls the remnant the church instead of the church the remnant ?
For an individual christian who knows nothing, is ignorant in so many things, but shows a willing mind, the least is enough to hope the best. But for a teacher who has gone around the world and has made PUBLIC statements and appearances that show he connects himself to the false church, that is an enemy to the true church, and shows deformation from the attainments of the Reformation, there is NO excuse when he is warned extensively with proof and does not repent of his errors.
The goal of the writer of this protest is to unite the true church of the past that witnessed and lived according to Scripture (the Waldenses, the reformers, the english puritans, the scottish covenanters, and Spurgeon) with the true church of this day and age ! If that means dividing the false church of this day and age from the true church of this day and age and history, than only do I seek division namely between the false and true church of Christ (KJV Rev 11v1-2) ! That is why I talk so much about the issue about THE papal antichrist, arminianism/calvinism, and true worship of God in Spirit and truth because these three issues were important to the true church of old, but NOT to the false church of this day and age ! Knowing that even the true visible church is still a corpus permixtum until the final days !
This last week I have listened to sermonaudio.com and Youtube, to the messages of Mr.. Mbewe, Mr. Miller, Mr. Sims, and Mr. Noblit.
The same marks appear as the speakers of Heartcry.nl (the Dutch connection in the Netherlands) also have:
- a first year bibleschoolpupil could do much better
- a completely ignorant non-christian from outside any church could produce better messages in a few hours, giving him a KJV and several commentaries like Barnes, Henry, Poole, and Gill
- these messages could simply be copies of those preached in earlier years, absolutely no new thinking processes or inspiration from above are needed when one simply copies an old message (or must I suppose that Mr. Mbewe never ever preached about total depravity, and Mr. Miller about Jonah ?)
- their audience already heard these messages hundreds of times in the years past
- great swelling flattering words are given to these so called preachers and their bad lectures, otherwise no money is generated and no one would listen to these wicked men !
- if this is all these men have to say to the christians in the world, they better quit and get a real job !
- these messages are superficial, not timely, and makes one wonder how much preparation has gone in them, for with those years of experience and all those messages already available from earlier years, these jokes of messages must have been put together in half an hour.
- at the end of the Sunday service the secretary of Mr. Noblit flatters the audience how ‘great’ they have been, a greater example of big time flattery I do not know.
- not the content of the message but the person decides whether a message is biblical or not.
Dennis (reformatienl)
Dennis,
It seems to that all you are trying to do is pick a fight. I don’t allow fights on this blog. If you live close i’d love to sit down and discuss some of these issues that you have with this conference. If we cannot meet personally you can email me personally via the contact form on this site.
It is curious to me that you think Paul is not up to par in many areas that most people would find him overly exuberant. I have a feeling that you are Dutch Reformed or at least a Hyper-Calvinist. If you are a Hyper-Calvinist I will continue to allow you to post on this blog but will not allow you to bash people who are stewards of the Gospel. Nor will I allow you to spew anti-evangelical non-sense to provoke people to fight.
I was not at this years conference. This post was from last year. I do, however, know most of the men who preached at this years conference and I would be glad to stand by any of them in defense of their character, doctrine, love for people, and most importantly passion for Jesus and His Church.
May God Bless you today.
Carlton
Wow, angry people! I am all for doctrinal purity and there are those who I would debate against and oppose, but I can not condone such venomous attacks as Dennis has unleashed on a “steward of the gospel” as Carlton put it. That sort of malice is reserved only for heretics in my book, those who are drawing people away from Christ and into Hell with them. This is not the first time that I have seen online such a list brought against Washer and the rhetoric sounds familiar too. Sounds like maybe Dennis has too much time to waste lambasting a fellow believer and preacher of the gospel.
In Christ,
Woodie
AMEN! to Carlton and Woodie for also standing up for what they believe in. I do NOT agree with Dennis, but to add to his last line of it is the person who decides whether or not the message is biblical or not, well, lets just say I am glad that thought doesn’t apply to all of our decisions on life. I am glad that God is in control of my life and that I have heard alot of these men speak and it is the most biblically spoken words straight from the bible that I have ever heard. Very thought provoking and bible searching words. God has truly annointed these men and messages!